tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post7806792462264144309..comments2024-03-24T08:18:33.058-04:00Comments on Conversations Over Chai: The Legends: MukeshUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-56341360504957878872014-01-30T14:17:05.341-05:002014-01-30T14:17:05.341-05:00Shalini, I agree with you completely about 'th...Shalini, I agree with you completely about 'the greatest'. I don't believe in it either, and I will also agree with you about there being several 'greats'. <br /><br /><br />I love all the Mukesh songs you have posted here. He sounds very different in <i>Sab pyar ki baatein karte hain</i>, much more of a bass voice than his usual. Naushad once said that it was criminal that composers made Mukesh sing at a higher pitch than his normal voice. He also confessed to having done the same. <br /><br /><br />I nodded my head in agreement at being happy with a happy Mukesh. :) Thanks for the songs.Anu Warrierhttp://anuradhawarrier.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-20937718015070296302014-01-30T11:41:14.109-05:002014-01-30T11:41:14.109-05:00Ah, I love Mukesh. Always have. My Dad saw to th...Ah, I love Mukesh. Always have. My Dad saw to that.:-) As you and others have pointed out, it's the sincerity and conviction with which he emotes that sets Mukesh apart. When I was younger, I used to place great value on a singer's technical powers and so Rafi, Lata and Asha were always tops with me. As I grew older however, I realized that given a base level of technical competence, I really didn't care if a singer hit every single note in a song exactly right, I did however care immensely if they hit a wrong note *emotionally*. And so now, I no longer consider Rafi to be my favorite or the greatest male singer in Hindi films. I no longer even believe in "the greatest", but just in great artistes and consider Mukesh to be one of them along with Rafi..and Kishore and Talat.<br /><br />Which of course means I love all the songs you've picked, save "main pal do pal ka shayyar hoon" from Kabhie Kabhie and that's because there is nothing that I like about Kabhie Kabhie. Nothing. :-) Here are some other favorites that haven't been mentioned:<br /><br />Aye jaan-e-jigar dil mein<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEfrHnKQrFM<br /><br />Apni nazar se unki nazar tak<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRQaMV5qNvs<br /><br />Sab pyar ki baatein karte hain<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faWwB7g2Wac<br /><br />Aye pyaase dil bezubaan<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaQULCc-TJM<br /><br />Yeh din kya aaye (nothing makes me happier than listening to a happy Mukesh!)<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbYhuhXnZdY<br /><br />Tujhko yoon dekha hai<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhScOB91axIShalini Razdannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-34085802193079115002014-01-28T19:32:51.531-05:002014-01-28T19:32:51.531-05:00Canasyaji, welcome. Thank you for adding some beau...Canasya<i>ji</i>, welcome. Thank you for adding some beautiful songs to this post. I had completely forgotten about <i>Bhooli hui yaadon</i>! I had not heard the non-film songs that you posted. Some of the others are 'new' to me as well. Thank you so much for the links. I have bookmarked them so I can listen at leisure. <br /><br /><br /><br />Yes, I have heard his rendition of <i>Tulsi Ramayan</i>. He was very proud of it. Both the anecdotes you mentioned are also familiar to me - it warms the cockles of your heart, doesn't it, to know that their greatness and their humility extended to their personal lives? Love the stories regarding the two men.Anu Warrierhttp://anuradhawarrier.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-11694789406441265672014-01-28T19:27:21.001-05:002014-01-28T19:27:21.001-05:00Hi, RS, Welcome to my blog. Thank you so much for ...Hi, RS, Welcome to my blog. Thank you so much for the appreciative words. <br /><i>I like the resonance in his voice and his crystal clear diction.</i><br /><br />That was something that many music directors had commented upon - his clarity of diction and the intonation. <br /><br />I didn't know about the addition of words with N and M sounds in the lyrics - that is very interesting. The songs you posted are very beautiful, though I'm not very fond of his songs for Manoj Kumar <i>in</i> Manoj Kumar films. Let me link them so it is easier for other readers to listen to them.<br /><br />I will check out your blog. I had to edit the link because for some reason it picked up my blog id as well, leading me at first to think that this was spam. :)Anu Warrierhttp://anuradhawarrier.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-73528340107800865612014-01-28T13:44:12.195-05:002014-01-28T13:44:12.195-05:00Anuji, may I say ‘Der ayad durust ayad’ (better la...Anuji, may I say ‘Der ayad durust ayad’ (better late<br />…). Thanks for a wonderful post. As an Indian born and brought up in a culture<br />of rationing, I could ill afford not to like whatever little variety our music<br />monopolies (HMV and AIR) chose to dish out. <br />Thus, I liked the songs of even Mahendra Kapoor and Sharada, while exercising<br />my prerogative by relegating them lower in the hierarchy of preferences. Mukesh was, of course, the voice of choice<br />for millions with unrequited love in our conservative society (according to a<br />psychologist quoted on one of the websites that I cannot locate now). Like Harveyji and AKji, I too prefer the<br />songs Mukesh sang for leading MDs such as SDB, Roshan, Madanmohan, Jaidev, and Khayyam. Among others Usha Khanna, Dattaram, N Dutta,<br />and SN Tripathi also got the best out of him. <br />Here are some of the gems not mentioned in the posts above:<br /><br />Bhooli huyi yaadon (Sanjog, 1961; MD: Madanmohan)<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ug9u5yJTg4<br /><br />Jab gham-e-ishq (Kinaare Kinaare, 1963; MD: Jaidev)<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOhtsfvs1X0<br /><br />Chaand ko kya maloom (Lal Bangala, 1966; MD: Usha Khanna)<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV-MoJB6HsM<br /><br />Dil ne use maan liya (Santan, 1959; MD: Dattaram)<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NMGV9Y7mI8<br /><br />Dil dhoondhata hai sahare sahare (Kala Aadmi, 1960, MD: N Dutta)<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35coBAEHPjQ<br /><br />Kise yaad rakhoon (Anuraag, 1956; MD: Mukesh)<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPzl13hKBXE<br /><br />Mukesh also left an invaluable legacy of non-film<br />songs. His rendition of Tulsidas’s<br />‘Ramacharitamanasa’ is well known, as are his other devotional songs such as<br />these two:<br /><br />Pitu matu sahayak <br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7k-7SN-tls<br /><br />Sur ki gati main kya janoo <br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZIGiYM033A<br /><br />The Mukesh and Rafi anecdotes were priceless. Raju Bhartan had another similar anecdote about<br />Mukesh who would often ridicule his own voice:<br /><br />"You know why Lata Mangeshkar is the greatest singer in<br />the world?" Mukesh would demand to know. "Because there is an<br />out-of-tune performer called Mukesh singing opposite her to make her voice sound<br />the best in the world !" <br /><br />And here is another one about Rafi’s childlike simplicity<br />(told by Shahid Rafi, his son, on a YouTube video; unfortunately I cannot find<br />the link now). The day he had recorded<br />‘Chal mere bhai’ from Naseeb, he returned home excited and told the children<br />“Do you know what happened today? I recorded a song with Amitabh Bachhan!”Canasyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-10157469188196623122014-01-28T12:02:46.041-05:002014-01-28T12:02:46.041-05:00Great post and a lovely selection of unforgettable...Great post and a lovely selection of unforgettable songs. Like you, most of us found that Mukesh was a singer who 'grew' on you. Apart from the emotion in his voice, I like the resonance in his voice and his crystal clear diction. Shanker-Jaikishen and Kalyanji Anandji had the maximum number of songs with Mukesh. Anandji once said that they would request lyricists to add more words that stressed the N and M sounds to bring out the best effect from Mukesh's nasal voice. Apart from the many songs listed here, I particularly like Teri Duniya mein (Bawre Nain), Deewanon se mat poocho (Upkar) and Chal Akela (Sambandh). In the Upkar song, the 'limited range' Mukesh sings the variations in the song easily. Kalyanji Anandji also 'neutralized' the 'sad' songs of Mukesh with westernized music, sometimes set to a brisk tempo like in Hum chod chale hain mehfil ko (Ji Chahta hai). <br /><br /><br />You can also enjoy more Mukesh gems (Category Mukesh) in my blog at http:/rsbaab.wordpress.com.RSBAABnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-10649930082084631152014-01-28T08:14:09.787-05:002014-01-28T08:14:09.787-05:00Lalitha, what a unique reason for liking someone&#...Lalitha, what a unique reason for liking someone's songs! *grin* Hey, no worries about adding songs to the list. I'm all for it. <br /><br />Take a look at the new post as well - you will have some more Mukesh to wallow in. :)Anu Warrierhttp://anuradhawarrier.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-64591326750613123882014-01-28T07:20:56.530-05:002014-01-28T07:20:56.530-05:00You want to know my real reason for liking Mukesh?...You want to know my real reason for liking Mukesh? He is the only singer whose songs I can sing and they will still be recognized for what they are! <br />A few more of my favorites:<br />kuchh sher sunata hoon main ... from Ek Dil sau afsane<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4x2ufqBrHc<br />sajan re jhoot mat bolo ... from Teesri Kasam<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XDHmknKBDM<br />suno ji suno hamari bhi suno ... also from Ek Dil Sau afsane<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVqIoKxX4BA<br />Koi jab tumhara hriday tod de ... from Purab aur Paschim (just the song, Manoj was never one of my faves!)<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzVg37Xl-Z4<br />and of course, <br />chal ri sajni ab kya soche ... from Bambai ka Babu<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuNp_LY13P4<br /><br />More favorites to follow! You will be inundated with them until you want to twist my neck or arm!Lalithanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-82117477044217807322014-01-27T22:57:21.630-05:002014-01-27T22:57:21.630-05:00You are welcome, Harvey. :)You are welcome, Harvey. :)Anu Warrierhttp://anuradhawarrier.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-76144053443601004812014-01-27T08:26:18.336-05:002014-01-27T08:26:18.336-05:00Banno, where would the world be if we all liked th...Banno, where would the world be if we all liked the same people and disliked the (same) others? A much younger me would have (and did!) take umbrage at people not worshipping Amitabh Bachchan (for instance) like I did (my siblings can tell countless stories of how they used to make me cry, the horrors), but there are so many actors/singers/you name its that I do not like very much, but others do. My liking or disliking them cannot take away from what they have achieved even if it is not to my liking. And like me with Mukesh, you (general 'you') need not be a fan, but you can still like their work. Or some parts of it. As you said, they have a body of work that stands testimony to that talent and hard work. <br /><br /><br />I think we (general 'we') take it very personally when someone does not like the person/thing that we do. I know I used to - anything anyone said against Amitabh was a personal attack against <i>me</i>. Luckily, most of us outgrow that silliness. :)Anu Warrierhttp://anuradhawarrier.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-29703998118003330622014-01-27T08:18:51.329-05:002014-01-27T08:18:51.329-05:00Got it! And what a lovely topic to choose. :)Got it! And what a lovely topic to choose. :)Anu Warrierhttp://anuradhawarrier.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-58371276823678435972014-01-27T08:17:56.691-05:002014-01-27T08:17:56.691-05:00Wasn't he? I felt like reaching out and pinchi...Wasn't he? I felt like reaching out and pinching his cheeks! Everytime I read something like this about him, I realise how true it was that people often said that Rafi retained a child-like innocence about him even when he was famous. That Mohammad Ali story was likewise. <br /><br />What I also liked about both Rafi and Mukesh was that they, by all accounts, insisted on staying with their musicians, instead of in better hotels, when they went on stage shows. It takes really great men to retain their humility. And while you hear of the egos of some of the other singers and composers, these two have been almost universally hailed as really good men, not just singers.Anu Warrierhttp://anuradhawarrier.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-55962210273242880842014-01-27T06:56:05.092-05:002014-01-27T06:56:05.092-05:00I'm not a big Mukesh fan, or a Raj Kapoor one,...I'm not a big Mukesh fan, or a Raj Kapoor one, at that. :) Sorry. But he has sung such beautiful numbers, as is evident by your list, some of which are eternal favourites. Ditto for Raj Kapoor, his body of work cannot be denied, even if there may be bits that are annoying.Bannonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-7858277948665748782014-01-27T01:33:25.771-05:002014-01-27T01:33:25.771-05:00Sure :) I will be sending a request soon......Sure :) I will be sending a request soon......coolone160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-8228455506053693772014-01-26T23:49:04.755-05:002014-01-26T23:49:04.755-05:00That is so cute! What an adorable man. :-) I was t...That is <i>so</i> cute! What an adorable man. :-) I was telling my sister yesterday about Mukesh's <i>"Yeh mujhe kaun copy kar raha hai</i>" anecdote, and was also reminded of how excited Mohammad Rafi was to finally get to meet his idol - Mohammad Ali - when he went to the US on a tour. It takes a lot of humility to be able to stay grounded even when you're such a celebrity yourself.dustedoffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-4812037135692687322014-01-26T14:53:04.145-05:002014-01-26T14:53:04.145-05:00Lalitha, I have often said he is a 'limited...Lalitha, I have often said he is a 'limited' singer, but I have never had a 'low opionion' of him. That he was not my favourite singer, is a fact. But then liking someone is very subjective, no? But I have <i>never</i> denied liking his songs - several of them, in fact. I am glad you like this post, and I hope this, and the next two posts, exculpate me from the charge of being a Mukesh-hater. (Which I most certainly am not!) :)<br /><br />Let me link to your songs. All three of your Mukesh-RK songs are personal favourites, and <i>Chandan sa badan is a lovely song from an unbearable movie. Thanks for posting them.</i>Anu Warrierhttp://anuradhawarrier.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-23873333148065176632014-01-26T13:00:30.203-05:002014-01-26T13:00:30.203-05:00Ashraf, grinning at your explanation of being sill...Ashraf, grinning at your explanation of being silly even when you are old. Join the club, and hopefully, our silliness will never go away. :) <br />Yes, I know what you mean by not knowing the abc of <i>sur</i> - I'm in the same boat, but somehow you know when the voice hits the wrong one. With Mukesh, again I agree with you, the appeal was in the emotion in his voice - it touched you in ways that technically perfect singers are not able to do. Thank you for the links, as well as warning me what I will see in the second one!Anu Warrierhttp://anuradhawarrier.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-68452729522623080332014-01-26T12:54:42.880-05:002014-01-26T12:54:42.880-05:00I was going to keep it for later, for when I write...I was going to keep it for later, for when I write about Rafi, but what the heck? It is too good not to share. I have been grinning ever since I read about it. Apparently, after an interview, the photographer was taking a lot of photos, and Rafi quietly posed every which way the photographer wanted. After they finished, he asked <i>Ek foon ke saath foto ho jaye?”</i> He then posed with a phone held to his ear. Later, when the interviewer's son went to meet Rafi with his father, he had taken some of the snaps so he could get them autographed. Rafi rifled through the snaps, saw the one of him with the phone, and said very happily <i>Ye main-ne khichwaya tha. Achi aayi hai na?</i> <br /><br /><br />I can't help but grin. I mean, for someone so celebrated, so photographed, so interviewed, to be so pleased with something so little... to me, that says a lot. :) <br /><br /><br /><br />Sanjeev Kohli is on record as saying that when they were looking for a photo of Rafi for a collection of sad songs of his that they were bringing out, they couldn't find a single one where he was not smiling. :)Anu Warrierhttp://anuradhawarrier.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-7493318023213713202014-01-26T12:41:58.625-05:002014-01-26T12:41:58.625-05:00You haven't mailed me your request yet. Harvey...You haven't mailed me your request yet. Harvey has sent in a request that is going to take me some time to dig up, but it will be fun.Anu Warrierhttp://anuradhawarrier.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-84077397022173885992014-01-26T12:41:19.153-05:002014-01-26T12:41:19.153-05:00Thank you, Ashokji.
I hadn't heard the song...Thank you, Ashok<i>ji</i>. <br /><br />I hadn't heard the song from <i>Aankhen</i> before. <i>Hum chal rahe the</i> is a song that I like very much. Thank you for the links.Anu Warrierhttp://anuradhawarrier.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-91650696001887375432014-01-26T09:14:42.939-05:002014-01-26T09:14:42.939-05:00Anu,
I must admit I am not a great fan of Mukesh ...Anu,<br /><br />I must admit I am not a great fan of Mukesh but I do like his songs, particularly emotionlal.<br /><br />I feel he is besura at times, to be honest, I do not understand abc of sur.<br /><br />I have read somewhere that Sardar Mallick worked very hard with Mukesh and made him sing in perfect sur for Saranga but the irony is that I find him besura in Saranga songs, that means I like him when he is real besura.<br />I like your list except for ofcourse Sarnaga and Chandramukhi.<br /><br />I had a good laugh at myself at your explanation on Char Diwari's song, it reminded me, of how silly I was, when I was little, (does not mean I am not silly now when I am OLD).I used to think that the lyric was Kaise manau tyauhaar jun mere ek hoon nahin and always wondering ( as a child ) do we have to have gun to manoo tyauhar? :)<br /><br />Back to Mukesh, his nasal quality at times enhanced some of his songs eg: Maine tere liye hi saat rang ke sapne.<br /><br />Songs for Raj Kapoor my favorite is Kisi ki muskura hato par http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKpfIAXnPr0&feature=player_embedded<br />Non Raj Kapoor songs that come to my mind right now, are both twin KA songs.<br /><br />first one is from Holi aai re, a warning for the video, watch at your own risk, you have to bear the hero and the heroine, you can take the option of just listening to the beautiful song.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy_okpKLE4M&feature=player_embedded<br /><br />the other song from Apne hue paraye heroine is again Mala Sinha but i found her bearable here.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWYw0Z_OKkQ&feature=player_detailpageAshrafnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-7632093570973621772014-01-26T00:38:38.850-05:002014-01-26T00:38:38.850-05:00"And like Mohammed Rafi (I've discovered ...<i>"And like Mohammed Rafi (I've discovered one absolutely cute anecdote about him!),</i>"<br /><br /><br />What, what, <i>what</i>? *hopping about with curiosity*dustedoffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-83597592633579774392014-01-25T23:50:20.080-05:002014-01-25T23:50:20.080-05:00:):)coolone160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-6047189094914178252014-01-25T21:42:19.932-05:002014-01-25T21:42:19.932-05:00Tribute to
Mukesh is as emotional as was his voice...Tribute to<br />Mukesh is as emotional as was his voice.<br /><br />May I add two of his Rajendra Kumar songs here:<br /><br />Jo Chala Gaya Use Bhol Ja - Saathi - Naushad - http://youtu.be/tWHBg_eAHJY<br /><br />Ae Dil Pyar Ki Manzil - Aas Ka PAnchhi - Shanker Jaikishan -<br />http://youtu.be/GgikWjeKNGs<br /><br />Similarly, we have two Madan Mohan songs<br /><br /> one on Pradeep Kumar -<br /><br />Hum Chal Rahe The - Duniya Na Maane - http://youtu.be/bVwPHL19v14<br /><br />and <br /><br />a 1950 song on Sheikhar -<br /><br />Preet Laga Ke Main Yeh Fal Paaya - Aankhen - http://youtu.be/Zdd0Isv3l4AAshok M Vaishnavhttp://amvaishnav.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309362817539389132.post-57421324615462182532014-01-25T16:56:39.643-05:002014-01-25T16:56:39.643-05:00Coolone, you're welcome. I'm glad I wrote ...Coolone, you're welcome. I'm glad I wrote about one of your favourite singers, then. Thanks for the additions to my post. I had <i>Ruk jaa o jaanewali ruk ja</i> on my long list for Mukesh-RK songs. Of course, it didn't make the final cut, so I'm doubly glad to see it here.Anu Warrierhttp://anuradhawarrier.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.com